Earnings call: Rayonier reports Q2 adjusted EBITDA of $56 million

Rayonier Inc . (NYSE:), a leading timberland real estate investment trust, reported a decline in its second-quarter earnings with adjusted EBITDA reaching $56 million and pro forma net income of $4 million, or $0.02 per share. The company attributed the lower earnings primarily to reduced harvest volumes in their timber segments but expressed confidence in recouping these volumes in the latter half of the year. Despite the dip, Rayonier remains on course to hit the lower end of their full-year adjusted EBITDA guidance and is making headway on a $1 billion disposition target.

Key Takeaways

• Rayonier reported adjusted EBITDA of $56 million and pro forma net income of $4 million, or $0.02 per share.
• Lower harvest volumes in timber segments were the main reason for the decline.
• The company expects to recover much of the lost volume in the second half of the year.
• Adjusted EBITDA in the Southern Timber, Pacific Northwest Timber, and New Zealand Timber segments decreased from the prior year.
• Real estate segment EBITDA fell slightly, but the company saw healthy interest in development projects and rural properties.
• Rayonier anticipates favorable pricing conditions in the future, particularly in the New Zealand carbon market.

Company Outlook

• Rayonier expects to achieve full-year adjusted EBITDA toward the lower end of their guidance range.
• The company remains on track with their $1 billion disposition target.
• There is healthy interest in Rayonier’s development projects and rural properties.

Bearish Highlights

• Decline in log prices due to weak demand in China’s property sector.
• Average delivered solid prices in New Zealand’s domestic market fell due to soft local construction market demand.

Bullish Highlights

• Inventory levels have adjusted to weaker demand, with a 10% YoY decrease in softwood log inventories at Chinese ports.
• Non-timber income in New Zealand increased due to higher carbon credit sales.
• The company reported higher revenue and adjusted EBITDA in the real estate segment, driven by a non-strategic timberland sale in New Zealand.

Misses

• Adjusted EBITDA and pro forma net income were down from the previous year.

Q&A Highlights

• Rayonier executives remain confident in meeting their targets and reported increased interest in opportunities.
• The company is positioning itself to support growth in the high-quality carbon credits market.
• Dividend sustainability is focused on long-term growth, with an expectation of improved cash flow in the second half of the year.

Rayonier’s second-quarter performance reflects the challenges and opportunities in the timberland industry. The company has been affected by external market conditions, particularly in China and the New Zealand domestic market, but is adapting to these changes and sees potential in carbon credit sales and real estate. With strategic plans in place to offset the current downturn in harvest volumes and confidence in the sustainability of their dividend, Rayonier is poised to navigate through the remainder of the year with cautious optimism.

InvestingPro Insights

Financial Health and Analyst Perspectives

Rayonier Inc. (RYN) has demonstrated resilience, maintaining a consistent dividend payout for over three decades, which aligns with their long-term growth focus mentioned in the Q&A highlights. With a market capitalization of $4.62 billion and a Price/Earnings (P/E) ratio of 29.18, the company trades at a low P/E ratio relative to its near-term earnings growth potential. This is particularly relevant given the company’s confidence in recovering lost timber volumes in the second half of the year.

Performance Metrics and Valuation

InvestingPro data indicates that Rayonier’s revenue growth over the last twelve months stood at a robust 20.76%, showcasing the company’s ability to expand its top line. However, the quarterly revenue growth did see a decline of 6.13%, reflecting the short-term challenges mentioned in the article, such as the decline in log prices and weaker demand in key markets. The company’s gross profit margin remains healthy at 28.62%, underpinning its operational efficiency.

InvestingPro Tips and Market Sentiment

Despite the recent challenges, analysts predict that Rayonier will remain profitable this year, and the company’s liquid assets exceed its short-term obligations, indicating a strong liquidity position. However, it’s worth noting that two analysts have revised their earnings downwards for the upcoming period, which could be a point of consideration for investors looking at the near-term outlook. For those interested in a deeper analysis, there are six additional InvestingPro Tips available on Rayonier, which can be accessed through the InvestingPro platform.

In summary, Rayonier’s solid financial foundation, combined with strategic initiatives to recover from current market challenges, presents a picture of a company with potential for future growth. The InvestingPro Tips and data metrics provided here offer a glimpse into the company’s valuation and performance, which can be further explored for a comprehensive investment analysis.

Full transcript – Rayonier Inc (RYN) Q2 2024:

Operator: Welcome, and thank you for joining Rayonier’s Second Quarter 2024 Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] Today’s conference is being recorded. If you have any objections, you may disconnect at this time. Now, I will turn the meeting over to Mr. Collin Mings, Vice President, Capital Markets and Strategic Planning.

Collin Mings: Thank you and good morning. Welcome to Rayonier’s investor teleconference covering second quarter earnings. Our earnings statements and financial supplement were released yesterday afternoon and are available on our website at rayonier.com. I would like to remind you that in these presentations, we include forward-looking statements made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of federal securities laws. Our earnings release and forms 10-K and 10-Q filed with the SEC, lists some of the factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements we may make. They are also referenced on Page 2 of our financial supplement. Throughout these presentations, we will also discuss non-GAAP financial measures, which are defined and reconciled to the nearest GAAP measures in our earnings release and supplemental materials. With that, let’s start our teleconference with opening comments from Mark McHugh, our President and CEO. Mark?

Mark McHugh: Thanks, Collin. Good morning everyone. First, I’ll make some high level comments before turning it over to April Tice, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, to review our consolidated financial results. Then we’ll ask Doug Long, Executive Vice President and Chief Resource Officer, to comment on our US and New Zealand timber results. And following our review of our timber segments, April will discuss our real estate results and our outlook for the balance of the year. Overall, we generated second quarter adjusted EBITDA of fixed $56 million and pro forma net income of $4 million or $0.02 per share. Market conditions remain challenging during the second quarter, with much of the decline in adjusted EBITDA versus the prior year period attributable to lower harvest volumes in our timber segments, reflecting generally softer demand and the deferral of some harvest activity. We expect to recoup much of this volume over the balance of the year, which should translate to stronger second half versus first half results for our timber segments collectively. Drilling down further on our timber segment operating results. Our southern timber segment generated second quarter adjusted EBITDA of $34 million, down $10 million from the prior year period, as a 17% decline in harvest volumes more than offset a 2% improvement in net stumpage realizations. In our Pacific Northwest timber segment, second quarter adjusted EBITDA of $6 million was down $1 million from the prior year quarter, as a 12% reduction in harvest volumes due to the Oregon sale completed late last year and lower non-timber income more than offset improved net stumpage realizations. Turning to our New Zealand timber segment, second quarter adjusted EBITDA of $8 million decreased $1 million versus the prior year quarter. The decrease in adjusted EBITDA was driven by lower net stumpage realizations and lower harvest volumes, partially offset by increased carbon credit sales and favorable foreign exchange impacts. In our real estate segment, we generated second quarter adjusted EBITDA of $19 million, down $1 million from the prior year period. Adjusted EBITDA in our real estate segment improved significantly versus the first quarter, but was below our expectations entering the quarter due to the timing of closings in our improved development business. However, our full-year transaction pipeline remained strong and we expect that second half results in our real estate segment will be significantly higher than first-half results. Overall, as April will discuss in greater detail later in the call, we are on track to achieve full-year adjusted EBITDA toward the lower end of our prior guidance range of $290 million to $325 million. As we indicated at the beginning of the year, our full-year 2024 financial guidance excludes the potential impact of any additional asset sales as part of the $1 billion disposition target that we announced in November. As it relates to our disposition target, we made significant progress during the second quarter and we currently have several large transactions that are in various stages of evaluation or negotiation. Overall, we have been encouraged by the interest received from prospective buyers as we advance our efforts to reduce leverage and capitalize on the continued disconnect between public and private values for Timberland assets. We expect to be in a position to provide additional details regarding pending transactions on or before our next quarterly earnings call. With that, let me turn it over to April for more details on our second quarter financial results.

April Tice: Thanks, Mark. Moving to the financial highlights on Page 5 of the supplement, sales for the second quarter totaled $174 million while operating income was $12 million and net income attributable to Rayonier was $2 million or $0.01 per share. On a pro forma basis, net income was $4 million or $0.02 per share. Pro forma items in the second quarter included $1.1 million of net costs associated with legal settlements and $700,000 of costs related to our disposition plans. Adjusted EBITDA was $56 million in the second quarter, down from $69 million in the prior year period. On the bottom of Page 5, we provide an overview of our capital resources and liquidity. Our Cash Available for Distribution or CAD, for the first half of the year was $60 million versus $63 million in the prior year period. The decrease was driven by lower adjusted EBITDA, partially offset by lower net cash interest paid. A reconciliation of CAD to cash provided by operating activities and other GAAP measures is provided on Page 8 of the financial supplement. We closed the second quarter with $142 million of cash and roughly $1.4 billion of debt. Our net debt to trailing 12 months adjusted EBITDA was approximately 4.3 times. At quarter end, our weighted average cost of debt was approximately 2.8% and the weighted maturity, average maturity of our debt portfolio was approximately five years, with no significant debt maturities until 2026. Our net debt to enterprise value based on our closing stock price at the end of the quarter was 22%. I’ll now turn the call over to Doug to provide a more detailed review of our timber results.

Douglas Long: Thanks, April. Let’s start on Page 9 with Southern Timber segment. Adjusted EBITDA in the second quarter of $34 million was $10 million or 22% below the prior year quarter, driven by lower volumes and higher costs, partially offset by slightly higher net stumpage realizations. Total harvest volumes fell 17% versus a strong prior year quarter due to weather related constraints in the Gulf region as well as weaker demand from sawmills. Meanwhile, non-timber revenue decreased 5% versus the prior year period as continued growth in our land-based solutions business was more than offset by lower pipeline easement revenues. Average saw log stumpage pricing was $29 per tonne, a 1% increase compared to the prior year period due to improved chip and salt pricing in most of our markets. Pulpwood net stumpage pricing was 10% higher than the prior year quarter at roughly $17 per tonne. Overall, weighted average stumpage prices in the second quarter increased 2% versus the prior quarter to roughly $22 per tonne. Improved in-market demand and reduced residual sawmill chip availability translated into improved pulpwood pricing across most of our markets in US South. Market pulp prices have improved over the past year and containerboard operating rates continue to rebound following the inventory destocking cycle that weighed heavily on containerboard demand in 2023. Turning to Grade markets. Log demand softened throughout the second quarter due to continued weakness in Southern Yellow (OTC:) Pine lumber demand as well as drier weather across our Atlantic operating areas. Encouragingly, we have seen indications that the second quarter may mark the low point in pricing. Additionally, over the past few months, we’ve seen a nearing of the price discount between Southern Yellow Pine lumber and other species. However, the overall demand picture for lumber remains challenged by continued softness in housing and repair and remodel markets. Lumber producers are responding by reducing production, with several mills in the region opting to reduce output in response to current market conditions. In turn, we’re seeing less demand for sawtimber as mills adjust their operations over the near term. That said, the relative strength and diversity of our US South footprint remains a key competitive advantage as we navigate these headwinds. We anticipate a potential rebound in end-market demand following expected interest rate cuts later this year. When this occurs, we believe that our strategic positioning will allow us to capitalize on stronger log pricing as lumber production ramps up again in the US South. Moving to our Pacific Northwest Timber segment on Page 10. Adjusted EBITDA of $6 million was $1 million below the prior year quarter. The year-over-year decrease was primarily driven by lower harvest volumes and lower non-timber revenue, partially offset by improved net stumpage realizations. Volumes decreased 12% in the second quarter as compared to the prior year period, reflecting the large disposition we completed in Oregon during late 2023. At $91 per tonne, average delivered domestic saw log pricing in the second quarter decreased 7% in the prior year period due to a combination of weaker demand from domestic lumber mills, a lower proportion of Douglas-Firvolumes, and reduced export market tension. Meanwhile, at $30 per tonne, pulpwood pricing remained fairly stable during the quarter, but was down 17% versus a strong prior year quarter that benefited from favorable supply demand dynamics for pulpwood in the region. Overall, despite lower delivered pricing, net stumpage realizations increased 10% due to favorable pricing on stumpage sales and lower per tonne cut and haul costs on delivered volume. The Pacific Northwest log market continued to face headwinds during the second quarter from both challenging domestic lumber markets and reduced demand for log exports. Similar to the US South, sawmills in the region are responding to these market conditions by reducing lumber production to better align with current demand. Still, our pricing has been fairly resilient thus far in 2024. We believe that the threat of potential supply constraints as we enter the peak of fire season as well as the recent uptick in lumber prices should translate into fairly stable pricing with some modest upside potential as we move through the balance of the year. Moving to New Zealand. Page 11 shows results in key operating metrics for our New Zealand timber segment. Adjusted EBITDA in the second quarter of $8 million was $1 million below the prior year quarter. The decrease in adjusted EBITDA compared to the prior year period was primarily driven by a 12% decrease in harvest volumes and 7% lower weighted average delivered log prices, partially offset by higher carbon credit sales and favorable foreign exchange impacts. Average delivered export sawtimber prices of $102 per tonne declined 2% compared to the prior year quarter as demand continued to be constrained by ongoing challenges in China’s property sector. Offtake from Chinese ports remains subdued, reflecting weak construction demand. After rebounding seasonally following the Lunar New Year, daily port offtake has fallen back to approximately 50,000 cubic meters to 60,000 cubic meters over the past few months. Positively though, inventory levels have generally adjusted to the weaker demand environment. At the end of July, softwood log inventories at Chinese ports stood at approximately 3.3 million cubic meters, down roughly 10% year-over-year. The relatively lean log inventories in China give us optimism that modestly more favorable pricing conditions will materialize as we move through the balance of the year. Shifting to the New Zealand domestic market. Second quarter average delivered solid prices fell 6% from the prior year period or 4% when including foreign exchange impacts. The decline in pricing reflects soft demand in the local construction market amid a higher interest rate environment as well as reduced competition from the export market. Second quarter non-timber income in New Zealand of $5 million increased $4 million relative to the prior year period. The year-over-year increase reflects higher carbon credit sales in the current year period as we temporarily suspended our sales program in the first half of 2023 amid significant market volatility. We anticipate that we will remain active in the New Zealand carbon market over the course of 2024, as price remains healthy from a historical standpoint. Lastly, in our trading segment, we registered a breakeven result in the second quarter. As a reminder, our trading activities typically generate low margins and are primarily designed to provide additional economies of scale to our key timber export business. I’ll now turn it back over to April to cover our real estate results.

April Tice: Thanks, Doug. As detailed on Page 12, the contribution from our Real Estate segment during the second quarter was considerably higher than the first quarter, fueled in large part by a non-strategic timberland sale in New Zealand. Real estate revenue totaled $31 million on 14,600 acres sold at an average price of $1,750 per acre. Real estate segment adjusted EBITDA in the second quarter was $19 million. Drilling down sales in the improved development category totaled $2.6 million. In our Heartwood development project south of Savannah, Georgia, sales consisted of two residential pods for $1.6 million or $34,000 per acre. In our Wildlife development project north of Jacksonville, Florida, we sold an 8 acre commercial parcel for $1 million or $125,000 per acre. Despite the elevated interest rate environment, we continue to see healthy interest from home builders as both our projects continue to benefit from favorable migration patterns as well as relatively affordable price points. Interest from developers for non-residential end uses remains stable, but some deals are taking longer to materialize in the current financing environment. While we expect that the timing of land sales will remain lumpy quarter-to-quarter, as we detailed in our Investor Day in February, we continue to see growing pipeline of opportunities in our development business. Turning to our Rural category. Second quarter sales totaled $7 million, consisting of approximately 1400 acres at an average price of roughly $5,200 per acre. While elevated interest rates continue to impact the willingness of some buyers to transact, the overall demand and pricing for rural properties remain favorable. As discussed last quarter, we have seen growing interest among conservation and impact-oriented buyers looking to place capital. We continue to expect a larger contribution from these sales as we move through the balance of the year. Lastly, during the second quarter, we also closed on a nonstrategic timberland sale in New Zealand. The transaction consisted of approximately 13,000 acres for roughly $16 million or $1,200 per acre. The transaction included several geographically isolated parcels with above-average production cost, a relatively young age class distribution and below-average operability with only about 50% of the total acres classified as plantable. The sale price per acre reflects the below-average quality of this asset and is not indicative of the overall value of our New Zealand timberland portfolio. Notably, this transaction was initiated mid last year and is not related to the review of a strategic alternative for our New Zealand joint venture interest. Now moving on to the outlook for the balance of 2024. Based on our first half results and our expectations for the remainder of the year, we now expect that full-year adjusted EBITDA will be toward the lower end of our prior guidance range of $290 million to $325 million. Further, we now expect pro forma EPS to be modestly below the low end of prior guidance. As a reminder, our guidance excludes the potential impact from any additional asset sales as part of our previously announced $1 billion disposition target. With respect to our individual segments, in our southern timber segment, we expect full-year harvest volumes toward the lower end of prior guidance as we look to opportunistically flex our volume in response to market conditions. Further, we anticipate that pine stumpage realizations will be lower in the second half of the year as compared to the first half due to a less favorable geographic mix, lower sawlog prices, and a relatively higher proportion of thinning volume. Lastly, we remain encouraged by the momentum of our land-based solutions business and continue to expect higher non-timber income for full year 2024 relative to full year 2023. Overall, we anticipate full year Southern Timber adjusted EBITDA toward the lower end of our prior guidance range. In our Pacific Northwest Timber segment, we expect to achieve full year volumes slightly below our prior guidance. As Doug discussed, pricing conditions have been relatively stable thus far in 2024, but our ability to increase delivered log prices has been constrained by challenging domestic and export market conditions. While we believe there is some modest upside potential as we move through the balance of the year, we have tempered our pricing expectations as compared to earlier in the year. Overall, we expect full year Pacific Northwest timber adjusted EBITDA toward the lower end of our prior guidance range. In our New Zealand Timber segment, we are on track to achieve our full year volume guidance as we anticipate relatively higher harvest volumes during the second half of the year as compared to the first half. Further, we continue to expect that full year domestic and export saw timber pricing will improve modestly relative to the full year pricing achieved in 2023. Despite improved pricing conditions, we expect full year New Zealand timber adjusted EBITDA to fall slightly below our prior guidance range due to lower carbon sales, softer export markets and elevated shipping costs. In our Real Estate segment, we continue to see healthy interest in our development projects and rural properties. We continue to anticipate full year adjusted EBITDA within our prior guidance range with transaction activity heavily concentrated in the fourth quarter. I’ll now turn the call back over to Mark for closing comments.

Mark McHugh: Thanks, April. As I reflect on the first half of the year, I’m proud of how our team has continued to navigate challenging operating conditions with an unwavering focus on making decisions in the best long-term interest of Rayonier and its shareholders. To this end, we elected to strategically defer some harvests in more challenged markets to preserve value in the phase of ongoing headwinds posed by soft domestic lumber markets and lower export market demand. Despite the headwinds facing sawtimber markets this year, we are encouraged by the sustained improvement in pulp mill operating rates across our US South footprint and the corresponding gains in pulpwood pricing that we’ve been able to capture. The prospect of rate cuts later this year, coupled with continued low log inventories in China, give us additional reasons for optimism over the balance of the year. On the Real State front, we’ve been pleased by the continued demand for both rural and development properties despite the higher interest rate environment. As previously discussed, we expect a significantly stronger contribution from our real estate segment during the second half of the year versus the first half. We also believe that more favorable financing conditions could further bolster the already healthy demand we’re seeing across our real estate categories. Throughout the first half of the year, we’ve also continued to advance important strategic initiatives. On the land-based solutions front, our team is energized by the pipeline of opportunities we’re pursuing with high-quality counterparties. We continue to believe that our land base leaves us uniquely well positioned to grow these revenue streams over time. And as I discussed earlier, we are pleased with the progress we’ve made toward executing our $1 billion disposition target. There remains a strong bid for timberland assets in the private market and we continue to advance a variety of options to achieve this target. We look forward to sharing more details regarding our disposition efforts in the coming months. That concludes our prepared remarks, and I’ll now turn the call back to the operator for questions.

Operator: Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Mark Weintraub with Seaport Research Partners. Your line is open.

Mark Weintraub: Thank you. Two quick questions. One, when you originally announced the disposition plan you had suggested an 18-month time frame, is that still the right duration to be thinking about? Or any update there?

Mark McHugh: Hey, Mark, this is Mark. Good morning. Yes, that is still the right time frame to be thinking of. As we said, in the prepared remarks as well as in the release. We’ve made quite a bit of progress here in the last several months, and we look forward to sharing more details on or before our next earnings call.

Mark Weintraub: Okay. I appreciate that. And then any additional specifics in terms of things that might have moved forward on land-based solutions? You made some general comments. But were there any updates that you can give us in terms of things concretely seeing done during the quarter?

Douglas Long: Sure. Good morning, this is Doug. On the land-based solutions front, our team continues to advance a range of opportunities with high-quality counterparts we entered before. But to your point, recently, we’ve added another 5,000 acres of executed carbon capture storage leases. And as we discussed on our last call, we’re still well on the way to achieving our year-end goals of having over 70,000 acres under lease for current capture storage and targeting over 50,000 acres under options for solar. So we continue to believe our portfolio is uniquely well positioned to provide these solutions as many large corporations are setting ambitious sustainability goals, including those commits to reduce their carbon footprint and increase the use of renewable energy. So we did have some success in the core — current quarter and are seeing great progress we move forward for the rest of the year.

Mark Weintraub: Great. And in curiosity, back in February, you provided some targets I guess we’re 6 months forward from that. How do you feel about those targets today versus how you felt about them back in February?

Douglas Long: Yes, I’d say we still feel very good about those targets. And if anything else, we’re seeing probably more interest than we had in February for these type of opportunities.

Mark Weintraub: Okay, thanks so much.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Anthony Pettinari with Citi. Your line is open.

Gregory Andreopoulos: Hi, good morning. This is Gregory on for Anthony. First, I guess, on to Timberlands. Can you just comment on what you saw across your various subregions in the second quarter and maybe what’s implied in the full year guidance? And then I’m wondering also if there are any disparities locally in the South, are the main drivers there kind of sawmill operating rates? Or are there more kind of nuanced drivers of prices regionally? Would love to hear your thoughts there.

Douglas Long: Sure. This is Doug, and I’ll be happy to start there. Yes. I think one thing that’s important is to keep in mind that we do a combination of stumpage sales and delivered sales, and we don’t have exact control in the quarter when a stumpage track is going to be harvested. And those buyers typically have a year to harvest, and we’ll start selling towards the end of Q4 of the prior year and the beginning of the current year. And so to the extent there’s market softness or weather issues such as we saw in Texas, Louisiana, there can be some short-term timing differences. And to your point, I think it’s worth noting that for the first half of the year, the southern portion of our Southwest resource unit, so kind of the Texas, Louisiana along the Gulf Coast there received more rain than the historical yearly average. So in the first six months, they received over a year’s worth of rain and if you saw any new storage [indiscernible], you probably saw the flooding in Houston, things like that, so you can appreciate that. So we did see some reductions in harvest in those areas where it’s just too wet to harvest, but we’ve seen improvements there. And plus, given the market conditions, we’ve been pretty deliberate about what we brought to market and we didn’t look to chase volume. So that said, you after a challenging kind of second quarter and the stumpage our removals are ahead of forecast for July across all of our southern units. So we’ve seen some improvements across there as we move forward.

Gregory Andreopoulos: Thank you for that. And then maybe if I could just have one follow-up on carbon credits. So based on the data I’m seeing, it looks like New Zealand carbon credits kind of leveled off, they dropped off pretty sharply in March, April, and they’ve kind of leveled off since then. So I’m wondering if you can kind of put some context around what’s kind of allowed prices to stabilize there, whether demand has come back a little bit or supply has tightened. And then can you — for your New Zealand credits that you have on the balance sheet, are these able to be sold into the U.S. market at all? I’m only asking because it seems like the credits on your balance sheet are pretty high quality, pretty rigorously tested. And Bloomberg put out the headline recently about 32% of all credits failing this approval test. So in my mind, you may be able to get better pricing in the U.S. market, if good credits are commending premiums? Or is that not the right way to think about it?

April Tice: Hi Greg, this is April, I’ll take that. So I’ll just take the first half of your question, and then I’ll turn it over to Doug to follow up. So — as we detailed in our supplement, we sold about $4.4 million worth of garden credits in New Zealand in the second quarter, and that was up from $400,000 in Q2 of 2023. So as we talked about and Doug said in our prepared remarks, last year, we deferred our New Zealand sales early in 2023 because there was such volatility in the market. but we’ll resume sales later in the year. So we’ll — that’s what we’re doing now. We’re being opportunistic about how we’re selling them in New Zealand. As far as like the stability in the market, so overall, the regulatory backdrop has been stabilized. It’s been that way for — it was last quarter, this quarter, it continued. The government has indicated that they’re not really contemplating any significant changes to the ETFs in the near term. What drove some price drop earlier in the year was that there was an auction in March and the, failed to reach the full subscription. So the pricing pretty much backdropped off at that point. And so — but overall, the pricing is still strong from a historical perspective. It’s leaning around 50 to 55 NCD, which is pretty strong. And so we’re continuing to be active in that market.

Douglas Long: Yes. And I’ll just address your question a little more around the quality of markets and things like that. So as we discussed at our Investor Day, we continue to be very deliberate in how we’re thinking about moving forward in that voluntary card market given our discussions with potential buyers, who are very focused on those high-quality carbon credits. And we see that market really evolving towards the higher quality as you mentioned, that given our high timber EBITDA, it just hasn’t made sense for us yet to move forward. That said, we’re very encouraged by the progress of the Integrity Council for voluntary carbon markets, they’re coming core principles creation process. And what that’s going to do is create basically approved credit that from our discussions with customers is something that they really believe will be recognized globally as a benchmark for high-quality carbon credits, ensuring that they represent real, verifiable and additional emission reductions. So we think this is a major milestone that we’ve really been waiting on and paves the way for verified [indiscernible] to come into this market in the near future and clear out the less meaningful ones that are really lower quality and, therefore, lower price from supply. So really over that longer time horizon, we still believe the man will outpace supply approaching 2030 as people focus on their net zero commitments. And really beyond that. And so we’re positioning ourselves to support that growth and demand and meaningfully contribute to this project with pursuing pilot projects that incorporate these latest improvements with the core carbon principles. So we still think this market has some time to develop and that pricing has room to run and we’re being patient.

Mark McHugh: Yes. As it relates to just the ability to monetize New Zealand credits in the voluntary market in the U.S., recognize those are two different markets, and those credits are not — those credits are not fungible. There has been a lot of press about some of the quality issues with credits that have been issued historically in the voluntary carbon market, whereas obviously a regulated market, a credit is a credit as a credit. So I think as we see better standards evolve in the voluntary market, you’d like to get to a point where they are considered more or less fungible, but we’re certainly not there yet.

Gregory Andreopoulos: Thank you very much.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Matthew McKellar with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Matthew McKellar: Hi, good morning. Thanks to taking my questions. Could you share how you’re thinking about the pace of a lot of section in development at Wildlight over the next year or so. That community has built a lot of momentum over the past few years, and you mentioned good interest, but just wondering if you see any signs of caution from builders in the area?

Mark McHugh: I’d say that the single family homebuilding market has held up reasonably well. I mean that’s been a lot of — it’s been pretty well publicized in terms of how that market has held up in the face of higher interest rates. The benefit of hindsight, we now know that a lot of existing homeowners are essentially locked into low rate mortgages, which has really dried up supply in the resale market for — so much of that demand for homes has transitioned into the new home construction market. And particularly large national homebuilders have been very successful in essentially buying down rates in order to further stimulate demand in that market. I think given the demographics of our projects and Wildlight and Heartwood as well as the relatively affordable price point when you look at those markets relative to other areas of the state or even more broadly the U.S.. We do think that those areas have remained very attractive. And we’ve certainly transitioned in terms of scale of that project, we’ve certainly transitioned more towards dealing with large national homebuilders. And so I think that — look, the market is certainly more cautious today than it was a couple of years ago. But overall, we still feel pretty good about the pace of absorption and the level of interest that we’re seeing in those markets.

Matthew McKellar: Okay. Thanks very much for that color. And then for Q3 specifically, do you expect any impact to your business, whether it be disruption to harvest operations or otherwise in the south with some of the heavy rain from the Debbie tropical storm? Or maybe even conversely, would you expect to potentially benefit in some areas, given maybe better road infrastructure versus other owners of timberland in the area?

Douglas Long: Yes, sure. This is Doug. I’ll be happy to answer that question. Yes. I mean in localized areas, obviously, we’ve seen rainfall from 7 inches up to well over a foot. So it’s going to have a short-term impact on being able to produce logs, at the same point in time, it’s reducing lumber capacity, as you say, and the pulp mills and things like that. So short term, we do believe that there’s a slowdown in removals, but we’re already moving crews around. And to your point, our infrastructure investments — so we do think there’s an opportunity for lenders like ourselves. We’ve made those investments to recognize increased volume into the mills as well as potentially some pricing comes from that. So it is a short term, but the long term, we don’t think there’s going be a major impact there. And with our geographic diversity, it impacts kind of our coastal Florida, Georgia, but the rest of our operations, it’s had no impact on it.

Matthew McKellar: Okay, great. So then, last one from me. Just touching on the log exports out of the Pacific Northwest, have you seen any change in market conditions there? Any additional tension in the markets compared to what you saw in Q2?

Douglas Long: I would say it’s pretty much the same. So we’re still — the opportunities for additional exports into China have pretty much remained the same quarter-over-quarter, a little bit of improvement to Japan from what we’ve seen, but nothing significant to change.

Matthew McKellar: Okay, thanks. That’s all for me. I’ll turn it back.

Operator: Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Buck Horne with Raymond James. Your line is open.

Buck Horne: Hey, thanks. Good morning. I just kind of want to follow up on the kind of the weather update situation with the ground post Debbie. I guess my follow-up would be, if we continue to have a very busy storm season across the Southeast, it feels like your guidance is somewhat dependent on really ramping up harvest activity throughout the third and fourth quarters to kind of recover for the 2Q deferrals. Just wondering what’s the flexibility, I guess, across the region if we continue to have a fairly active storm season across the region.

Mark McHugh: Hey Buck, this is Mark. And I’ll maybe start and then kick it over to Doug for any additional detail. But recognize as well, when you mentioned that the guidance was contingent upon higher harvest levels in the back half of the year, that’s really more around the Pacific Northwest and New Zealand and less so in the South. We did have a very large harvest volume in Q1 in the U.S. South. We had actually guided towards lower harvest volumes for the balance of the year in the U.S. South in particular. So that commentary around recouping some volume over the balance of the year was really more specific to New Zealand and the Pacific Northwest. . More so than the South. But certainly, we could have some impacts to removal activity given the storms that we’ve seen. But again, recognize that can also be a double-edged short in the sense that when you — when volume is constricted due to wet weather events and due to the inoperability of timber harvest tracks, we tend to see some pricing tension developed. And we — Rayonier is a large owner of timberlands and a well-invested road infrastructure often stand to benefit from that in the sense that we have better access to our lands than perhaps some of the nonindustrial private landowners. And so again, there are some puts and takes there. But I don’t know, Doug, if you’d add anything to that.

Douglas Long: Mark, I think you did a great job with that. I would just reiterate to your point that typically, if we’ve seen our operations constrained. That typically means that everyone else has been constrained to a point where pricing oftentimes offsets the impact of reduced risk volumes pretty much to what you said. I think more to add.

Buck Horne: Got you. Thanks, guys. That’s really helpful color. And then I guess related to, I guess, is kind of a combination question. But it’s related to the dividend policy and dividend sustainability here, cash flow trends seem to be trending well below the payout schedule at the moment. with the dispositions that are planned for the back half of this year or into next year, what’s the thought process around near-term dividend sustainability or addressing the payout ratio sometime in the near future. Kind of what’s the outlook and what’s the flexibility on the balance sheet?

Mark McHugh: Yes. I mean as it relates to this year, Buck, keep in mind, we don’t manage our dividend funding or really focus on the payout ratio on a quarter-by-quarter basis. Rather, we’re really focused on long-term dividend sustainability and growth. Clearly, this year has gotten off to a slower start than we anticipated. But as we discussed during the prepared remarks, some of this is really timing related with respect to harvest activity and real estate closings. It’s also worth noting that even with the slower start to the year, our year-to-date CAD is only about $4 million short of where we were last year at this point in time. And that’s largely due to the paydown of some of our higher cost debt late last year with the proceeds of the Oregon disposition. Of course, right now, we’re really focused on further advancing our asset disposition target. Which we continue to believe will be accretive to CAD on a per share basis. We also expect the second half cash flow will be significantly higher than first half cash flow. When you put all these factors together, we’re still targeting a dividend that is fully funded this year, at least very close to it. And going forward, as we see the run rate impact of our disposition and deleveraging plan take effect, we expect the dividend funding should further improve from there.

Buck Horne: Got it. Thanks, guys. Good luck.

Mark McHugh: Thanks, Buck.

Operator: I am showing no further questions at this time. I will turn the conference back to Collin.

Collin Mings: This is Collin Mings. I’d like to thank everybody for joining us. Please contact us with any follow-up questions.

Operator: Thank you for your participation. Participants, you may disconnect at this time.

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