Earnings call: Endeavour Silver reports solid Q1 with eyes on Terronera

Endeavour Silver Corp . (NYSE:) has announced its financial results for the first quarter of 2024, highlighting a strong start to the year with increased revenues and continued progress on its major development project, the Terronera mine. Despite reporting a net loss, the company is optimistic about the future, banking on favorable precious metal prices and the anticipated production boost from Terronera.

Key Takeaways

• Endeavour Silver’s Q1 silver equivalent production totaled 2.3 million ounces.
• The company is on track to meet its 2024 production guidance of 8.1 to 8.8 million ounces.
• Q1 revenues rose 15% year-over-year to $64 million, although a net loss of $1.2 million was reported.
• Terronera mine construction is over half complete, with full completion expected in Q4 2024.
• CEO Dan Dickson emphasized the importance of Terronera to the company’s share price and future production profile.
• Endeavour Silver has hedged 68,000 ounces of gold, with no plans to hedge silver.

Company Outlook

• Endeavour Silver expects to achieve its 2024 production guidance.
• The Terronera mine is slated for commissioning in Q4 2024, with the LNG plant completion set for 2025.
• The company is preparing its 2023 sustainability report and has nominated a new board member.

Bearish Highlights

• A net loss of $1.2 million was reported for Q1.
• Silver grades were slightly below plan, although gold grades were slightly ahead.
• Inflationary pressures and a strong Mexican peso have increased operational costs.
• The company needs to build up a cash requirement to $28 million to access additional funds.

Bullish Highlights

• Higher gold and silver prices have positively impacted the company’s financials.
• The Terronera project is progressing well, with 53% completion by the end of Q1.
• Financing for Terronera is secured, with a remaining draw of $60 million expected in Q3.

Misses

• The company did not meet its net income expectations, recording a loss in Q1.
• The Terronera project faces increased costs due to inflation and exchange rates.

Q&A Highlights

• The company has hedged 68,000 ounces of gold for Terronera, with no additional hedging planned for the year.
• Labor costs for Terronera are expected to be higher, but the company has already made necessary hires.
• Commercial production at Terronera is dependent on various factors, with guidance to be provided closer to Q4.

During the earnings call, CEO Dan Dickson outlined Endeavour Silver’s performance and strategic focus. He highlighted the solid production figures and the crucial role of the Terronera mine in the company’s future. Dickson detailed the financial strategies in place, including gold hedging and currency management, to mitigate financial risks. With the Terronera mine’s construction in full swing, Endeavour Silver is poised for a significant production ramp-up in the coming year, aiming to capitalize on the robust market for precious metals.

InvestingPro Insights

Endeavour Silver Corp.’s (EXK) first quarter of 2024 has been a mix of progress and challenges. With a clear focus on growth, particularly with the Terronera mine development, the company is navigating through the complexities of the mining sector. Here are some key insights based on InvestingPro data and tips that may offer a deeper understanding of the company’s current financial health and future outlook:

InvestingPro Data:

• Market Capitalization: $797.58M USD, reflecting the company’s valuation in the market.

• Revenue Growth (Quarterly): An increase of 14.9% in Q1 2024, indicating a significant uptick in sales.

• One Week Price Total Return: A substantial return of 25.66%, showcasing a strong performance in the short term.

InvestingPro Tips:

• Analysts predict that Endeavour Silver will be profitable this year, which aligns with the company’s optimistic outlook despite the net loss reported in Q1 2024.

• The company’s liquid assets exceed its short-term obligations, suggesting a healthy liquidity position that could support ongoing operations and development projects like Terronera.

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Full transcript – Endeavour Silver Corp (EXK) Q1 2024:

Operator: Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Endeavour Silver Corp. First Quarter 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to turn the conference over to Galina Meleger, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Galina Meleger: Thank you, operator, and good day, everyone. Before we get started, I ask that you view our MD&A for cautionary language regarding forward-looking statements and the risk factors pertaining to these statements. Our MD&A and financial statements are available on our website at www.edrsilver.com. With us on today’s call is Dan Dickson, Endeavour Silver’s CEO as well as Elizabeth Senez, our Chief Financial Officer; and Don Gray, Endeavour’s COO. Following Dan’s remarks, we will then open up the call for questions. And now over to Dan.

Dan Dickson: Thank you, Galina, and welcome, everyone. On 2024, we hit the ground running with a solid start. Market sentiment has heated up as golds reached new all-time highs and silver is starting to follow. Our cash flow benefit from these higher prices and our share prices outperformed our peer sets thus far in 2024. From an operating standpoint, our operations are hitting their targets. Moreover, we made remarkable progress in the construction of our next cornerstone mine, Terronera, solidifying a bright future for the company. It’s exciting to think that this time next year, Terronera will be contributing production to our profile. Consolidated Q1 silver equivalent production totaled 2.3 million silver equivalent ounces or 1.5 million ounces of silver and 10,000 ounces of gold. This puts us in great shape to achieve 2024’s production guidance between 8.1 million to 8.8 million silver equivalent ounces. The performance of both operating mines Guanacevi and Bolanitos remain steady and for lack of better word script. Gold grades of both operations were slightly ahead of plan, offset by silver grades that were slightly below plan. Silver equivalents are flat and we expect similar grade profile throughout 2024. Moving to our financials, we reported top line revenue of $64 million up 15% year-over-year, due to higher volume sold and their higher realized gold price compared to Q1 2023. Cost of sales totaled $52 million also up 32% from Q1 2023 due to a combination of increased ounces sold, higher direct costs and depreciation. Direct costs have stabilized and aligned well with our 2024 plan costs. Mine operating earnings totaled $12 million after expiration, G&A and income tax expense reported a net loss of $1.2 million or $0.01 per share. At the site level, Guanacevi delivered mine free cash flow pretax of $6.5 million and Bolanitos contributed $4.5 million. The higher gold price has significantly benefited our Bolanitos operation. The full effect of the 2023 cost escalations and appreciation in the Mexican peso impacted direct operating costs compared to Q1 2023. As a result, our direct operating costs per time were significantly higher compared to last year. However, compared to 2024 budget, our direct operating costs aligned well with budget. To be clear for our listeners, our direct operating costs are defined as mining, processing and indirect costs. Royalties, special mining duty and purchased ore are included in our direct cost metrics and are all impacted by the higher metal prices. These costs again, including our direct cost per ton have all exceeded budget due to the higher metal prices. These account for roughly $50 per ton on our direct cost per ton. On a net basis, we did benefit from the higher byproduct gold credit, resulting in our cash costs and our all-in sustaining costs reporting below guidance. At March 31, we had cash on hand of $35 million and working capital roughly $56 million. During Q1, we raised gross proceeds of $39 million by our ATM facility. As a reminder, it’s essential to highlight that in adherence to our agreement for drawdown on the senior secured debt, we were committed to self-fund development for up to $150 million before gaining access to the $120 million credit facility. After quarter ended, we satisfied this condition, which in turn enabled us to draw on the first installment of the $60 million of $120 million committed. In connection with the draw, we also executed the final hedge contract terms to reduce financial risks on the project. First, capitalizing on the strong gold price environment, we executed forward sale contracts for 68,000 ounces of gold at $2,325 per ounce. This represents 55% of the planned gold byproduct production during Terronera’s initial three years of operations. Second, we secured the cost of the pesos by entering forward purchases of $45 million of U.S. equivalent Mexican pesos, which covers the remaining construction period at a fixed rate of 16.56 per U.S. dollar. Overall, we’re pleased with the terms of the debt package as our finance team dedicated significant efforts to secure favorable terms while safeguarding the upside for our shareholders. We anticipate completing the remaining draw of $60 million in Q3, aligning with the completion of the Terronera build completed in Q4. Let me give you a quick update on construction progress at Terronera. By the end of Q1, we achieved a significant milestone by surpassing the halfway point of construction, achieving 53% completion income seen progress at both the surface construction and underground mine development. As I mentioned earlier, we spent $38 million towards development, bringing our total expenditure to $158 million. Our project commitment now stands at $225 million representing 83% of the $271 million capital budget. With site activities advancing rapidly, we’ve concentrated our effort on structural steel installation, which is 80% complete and major equipment installation for our upper mill platform. As our quarterly reporting is very comprehensive, I’ll provide a few recent highlights of progress. Over the past year, we’ve emphasized the importance of accelerating mine development rates to four meters per day for critical heading, a goal we are steadily achieving to meet our production timeline. In this quarter alone, we completed over 1,000 meters of underground mine development, bringing our total to over 3,200 meters, keeping us on track for initial ore access in Q2. The majority of construction activities have progressed well at the upper plant site. Currently surface construction stands at 56% complete. On the procurement front, our bulk materials purchasing is on track with the construction schedule, allowing us to install many components upon immediate arrival to site, while making use of the project’s lean footprint. Our COO has optimized just in time delivery framework which has proven highly effective all while maintaining a steadfast focus on continuous safety measures. Thanks to your growing workforce at the site, which now totals 550 employees and contractors, this quarter saw the achievement of other significant milestones. This includes successful setting of both the SAG and ball mills, placement of the regrind mill and flotation cells and the commencement of installation for the crusher belt conveyors and apron feeders. Additionally, during Q1, we initiated excavation of the TSF embankment key trench in the lower platform area, which are 60% and 45% complete respectively. Concrete work is anticipated to start in Q2 on the lower platform. And lastly, on the community relations side, a new minor trainer program for local community members was established to provide training and employment. If you’re interested in viewing photos and video footage of the construction during progress, I encourage you to visit our website. You’ll find our currently photo gallery showcasing the latest developments as well as the video filmed in mid-March. Before we move to Q&A, I’d like to highlight that we recognize that our long-term success goes beyond achieving financial metrics. Next week, we will publish our 2023 sustainability report that speaks to our ongoing actions to mine responsibly and help shape a more inclusive sustainable future for our business and our stakeholders. 2023 marked the second year implementing our three-year sustainability strategy and we will be reporting on our progress to date. I would recommend you take time to view our new report after it’s published online. Additionally, we’re pleased to announce the nomination of a new board member, Angela Johnson, at our 2024 Annual Meeting of Shareholders to be held on May 28. Her technical background and ESG experience is an exceptional fit for our existing board members and helps us achieve succession planning objectives to ensure core board competencies and expertise are in place. That wraps my formal comments for today. Together with the other members of our management team, we would be happy to take questions. Operator, please open the lines.

Operator: [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Lucas Pipes, B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

Lucas Pipes: Thank you very much operator and good afternoon, everyone. Dan, I wanted to ask a little bit about the exchange rate in Latin America and how you would expect that to both impact your kind of operating cost expectations as well as any impact on the capital cost side? Thank you very much.

Dan Dickson: Yes, Lucas, that’s a good question. We did use a 17:1 ratio in our assumptions and our guidance for 2024 through Q1, we are effectively very close to 17:1. Our expectation is the Mexican peso will have a rate here around 17:1. So from an operating standpoint, we stick with where our guidance is, which is ultimately $14 to $15 cash costs, all in sustaining costs we expect to be 22 to 23. Obviously, in Q1, we’re below that guidance and I think that’s a function of the gold price. If you look at our costs, our direct operating costs per tonne they’re in line with where our plan was. From a construction standpoint, we entered into $45 million worth of FX contracts. So we’ve effectively locked that in at 16.6. So the impact for Terronera going forward would be muted because of that, but of course, like I say, I think the peso is going to it seems to stabilize here at 17:1. I expect that to stay there for the year.

Lucas Pipes: Thank you, Dan. And then, good job at Guanacevi. And you noted that silver grades were slightly below plan and so my question is when you would expect those to be maybe more kind of on plan or above plan and with the plan there, you exceeded the 1200 tonnes per day level and curious if there’s more to do on that? Thank you very much.

Dan Dickson: Yes, from a grade standpoint, we actually exceeded plan this quarter from a gold standpoint and slightly under plan from a silver standpoint on grades at Guanacevi. That’s normal variations in the ore body and we expect to be something similar for the next three quarters as well. So, we’re just over 400 grams of silver and about 1.2 or just under 1.2 grams of gold. I think those are very favorable grades and that’s our expectation for the year. As far as running 1200 tonnes per day through the Guanacevi plant or exceeding our capacity of 1200 tonnes per day, our hope is that will continue. Obviously, we put guidance out with the estimation of 1200 tonnes per day, but we did a lot of work in the plant in 2023 of refurbishing things and obviously we have the ability to push it beyond that 1200 tonnes per day and now it’s all predicated on the mine keeping up to speed. We don’t want to get too far ahead of ourselves. At the same time, like I said in my comments, Guanacevi has been very steady and the expectation is we’ll easily meet that 1200 tonnes going forward.

Lucas Pipes: Thank you very much. And maybe a quick one, just with the backup of much stronger precious metal prices, what’s your take on M&A in the space either kind of as a buyer yourself or more broadly in the ecosystem? Thank you very much.

Dan Dickson: Yes. I mean, from ourselves, our standpoint is we need to execute on Terronera and get Terronera into production. I think when at the end of this year, if we can execute on Terronera, get commissioning in Q4 and for commercial production for 2025, we’re going to see that reflected in our share price. Now you never say never, there’s always opportunities out in the market place from our standpoint, we want to see something that’s accretive, but I don’t think the full value of Terronera is built into our share price yet and again, I think that needs to be executed this year for that to be reflected there and from a broader standpoint, yeah, we’re seeing higher prices. Obviously, last year, we saw margins get constrained just because of higher costs and I think that’s percolated its way through the industry. I think cash is important. Obviously, there hasn’t been a lot of capital available in our industry and there needs to be investments from an exploration standpoint and a development standpoint, which will create more opportunity for prices to increase, especially from a silver standpoint. I can’t speak for the entire industry. I know as Endeavor, we want to be here 10 years from now. We continue to look for development projects, we look for exploration projects, but right now our resources are dedicated towards Terronera, mainly from a cash standpoint and also from a labor standpoint. There’s only so much time and energy that we have that we can put in certain projects and we really like our Pitarrilla project that’s coming in behind Terronera. So again for us, I think we want to get through 2024 and look at that landscape and from a broader standpoint, I think people are always going to be inquisitive and we always try to build a bigger, better company.

Operator: The next question comes from Heiko Ihle of H.C. Wainwright. Please go ahead.

Heiko Ihle: Hey Dan and team, thanks for taking my questions and I assume you can hear me okay?

Dan Dickson: We can hear you well, Heiko.

Heiko Ihle: Thanks, Don. Just looking at the gold with silver ratio during the quarter, obviously, gold production increased quite markedly. In fact, gold was so strong it made quite a measurable impact on cash costs given gold byproduct credits. At this point, we’re halfway through Q2 and gold still at 23.30. Just conceptually, can you provide a bit of guidance if you expect to see this through the remainder of the year and the impact on cash costs and if you anticipate this fully offsetting the impact of the higher Mexican peso?

Dan Dickson: Yes, for the higher Mexican peso is all built into our guidance to start with at 17:1. So of course, if we see the appreciation in the Mexican peso, a higher gold price offsets that. Again, I think the Mexican peso stabilized here. So hopefully it stays where it’s at because it is a significant portion of our costs from a labor standpoint, it’s about 30% of our operating costs, which is obviously tied to the Mexican peso. For gold, like I said in my comments initially, our gold grades were slightly ahead of plan and that’s just normal variations in body. Where I think there is opportunity is Bolanitos. Obviously, Bolanitos has more gold production on a proportional basis compared to Guanacevi and allows us to potentially get into some other areas of Bolanitos that we haven’t been in because of the lower gold price. So if we have higher gold production of course that means a bigger gold credit. I think Heiko what we look at as a management team is our direct operating costs per tonne. So the things that we can manage mining costs, processing costs and the indirect costs, so our G&A on-site. Our goal is to meet plan on that and we end up in a higher gold price environment of course that byproduct credit lowers our all-in sustaining costs and our cash costs, but we’re — like I say, we try to control what we can control, and that’s the inputs that are going into our operating costs.

Heiko Ihle: Fair enough, and then just a longer-term question, your direct operating costs in the quarter increased by about 10%. In your release, you said this was based on ongoing ventilation and water management challenges that affected productivity. Obviously, none of this translates to Terronera at all. And I just looked at some of the pictures here on your website and it looks like this thing is really coming together, but then you also state in the release that you’re encountering ongoing inflationary pressures and costs that I assume may ultimately be seen at Terronera a bit. I mean, commissioning at this point, Q4 is not that far out. Should the analyst community start thinking a bit of inflationary costs for the side or should the current numbers that we have stay as a good baseline for where we should be at?

Dan Dickson: Yeah, that’s a very good question Heiko and we haven’t provided guidance from an operational standpoint for Terronera since April of 2023 when we announced construction decision and at that time, we put out an optimized plan that highlighted an $81 cost per tonne and that cost per tonne had come down from the feasibility study of $87 to $81 because of the economies of scale going from 1700 tonnes per day to 2,000 tonnes per day. That estimate was done effectively December of 2022, January of 2023. Since the start of 2023 across the industry and specifically in Mexico, you’ve had the appreciation in the Mexican peso by 15%. You’ve had inflationary pressures specifically on steel, reagents, power costs, all in Mexico. So it would be very fair to assume that you’ve had escalations from an operating standpoint at Terronera going from $81 maybe get into the $95 or $100 range. We haven’t gone through and rebuilt those estimates from an operational standpoint. As we go into production, hopefully later this year, like I say commissioning for Q4, management will update those costs and we’ll provide guidance in the marketplace going into 2025, but again, if you just look what’s happened across the industry, what’s happened in Mexico, fair to say that those operational costs are higher than what we put out when we initially did that optimized plan.

Heiko Ihle: Fair enough. Great answer. Great quarter. Obviously, the stock is reacting quite favorably and I’ll get back in queue.

Operator: The next question comes from Craig Hutchison of TD Securities. Please go ahead.

Craig Hutchison: Hi, guys. Can you talk about the cadence of the remaining spend at Terronera? I think you said 53% in the March, commissioning maybe six to nine months away. I would imagine that the spend that you guys reported last time about 2% to 3% a month will accelerate. But if you could just sort of talk to how that spend will accelerate between now and then the commissioning?

Dan Dickson: Yeah, that’s a good question, Craig, and the fact that we are reaching our peak construction within well really this month, next month through August. The key components being the upper platform, As I said, 80% of steel is complete there. So now we’re going into piping and electrical. That’s been going very well with our contractor. Mine development remains a critical path into production. We are hitting ore in Q2. So this quarter, we expect start having ore come out of the mine. We have crossed the vein. Everything looks really good from that standpoint. So there is additional spend from standpoint and then the key other critical path is our tailings facility. Our tailings facility we call it the lower platform that’s where our dry stack tailings facility will be, our concentrator will be, and ultimately our LNG plant. Our LNG plant remains delayed. It’s expected to start commencing putting in the concrete this quarter and then obviously vertical construction after that. Our expectation is that LNG plant won’t be complete, which is 10% of the production of 100%. That won’t be completed until 2025. So we will be on diesel gensets when we go into commissioning in Q4, but ultimately from the 2% to 3% that’s going to pick up significantly and we’re going to get like I said, I think we said we have $225 million committed. A lot of that’s going to be pushed through in this quarter and then early Q3. So lots going on, but we have really no more procurement. It’s now just about executing and as we execute the embankment for the tailings facility, which has been going relatively well, we’ll be on track for commissioning in Q4.

Craig Hutchison: Okay, great. And just maybe as a follow-up on that, I understand the LNG getting commissioned again in 2025. How what’s the throughput you can run the plant at on diesel alone?

Dan Dickson: Yes, our diesel gensets will have the same output as our LNG plant which is just shy of 13 megawatts. So the plan is everything should be up and going on these diesel gensets. What the diesel gensets will do is increase our operating costs compared to the LNG plant.

Craig Hutchison: Okay, great. And then once you guys are sort of reach commissioning, what’s sort of a timeframe to reach commercial production? Like what type of what is the definition for you guys for commercial production? How long do you guys think it’ll take to get there?

Dan Dickson: Yeah, I don’t have the specific definition, it’s a multitude of factors of getting into commercial production or qualifying for commercial production. We initially estimated three to four months. I think we think we can do that a lot quicker than three to four months, but as we approach and understand where our bottlenecks are and if we can pre commission some of the upper platform before Q4 that would be ideal, but we’ll give guidance to the marketplace as we approach Q4 on that.

Craig Hutchison: Okay, great. And one last question for you, just on the second drawdown, can you remind me what the milestone is to access that additional money?

Dan Dickson: Yes. In that right now we like to say in April we pulled off $60 million and in that we had a cash requirement of sitting in your account which we ultimately call overrun facility of $24 million We’re required to build that up to $28 million and then independent engineers are doing a visit for the lenders late May, just to kind of update to make sure what’s happening in our reports is what’s happening on-site and that’s one of the terms and then other bunch of minor terms that need to be executed on going into that.

Operator: The next question comes from Robert Carlson of Janney Montgomery Scott. Please go ahead.

Robert Carlson: Great. Congratulations on the quarter and quick progress made so far. But do you guys utilize hedges?

Dan Dickson: Yeah, Robert. Well, we entered into a gold hedge, which is a requirement under our lending facility. So we entered into 68,000 ounces of gold that will be delivered through 2025 and 2026, a little bit into 2027 and that was priced out at $2,325 per ounce of gold. Otherwise, we don’t hedge silver. One of our mandates is to make sure that for our shareholder holders who are investing in Endeavor Silver is to provide that upside that we expect to come on a silver price standpoint. From an inter quarter standpoint, we’ll enter into things very short term, so under 90 days, but that’s just generally trying to take advantage of spikes in the silver price.

Robert Carlson: So with your never coming on board like next year, there’s no plans to establish a hedging program for silver?

Dan Dickson: No, there is no plan to establish a hedging program for silver. I think what we’re seeing right now in the silver market is an environment that’s going to be very favorable to silver price. I mean, from an industrial standpoint, we’ve seen significant demand increase because of solar panels, the electrification of the world, obviously trying to reduce carbon, but the monetary story for silver has been lagging for the last kind of two, three years, and we’ve seen gold really take off and ultimately make new all-time highs. Silver is still well off its all-time highs of $50. Today obviously, we are sitting just above $28. So I think there’s a lot of runway there for silver over the next kind of year or couple of years, and we want to leave that upwards movement in silver price for our shareholders.

Operator: The next question comes from Jake Sekelsky of Alliance Global Partners (NYSE:). Please go ahead.

Jake Sekelsky: Hey, Dan and team. Thanks for taking my questions. So just building on that last question a bit, I’m going back to the tailwind from stronger gold byproduct credits this quarter and more so at current levels. I’m wondering if there’s a level in gold where you’d look at hedging out some additional gold production outside of the requirements for the Terronera facility?

Dan Dickson: I mean, that’s a fair question. I think there’s a lot of runway left in the precious metal space, but it’s not something that we’d really entertain for this year. Obviously, we want to make sure we protect the downside of the company with having so much investment going into Terronera, but we think the 68,000 ounces of gold that we’ve already hedged out for when we get into operations for Terronera provides that. For the remaining operation, the Bolanitos and Guanacevi, we’ve produced about 30,000 to 35,000 ounces of gold. I think we’re comfortable that gold is on its way upwards. Obviously, there’s always downside potential, but we use $1840 in our guidance forecast and from a cash flow standpoint. Again, maybe we get into Q3 and we sell some gold forward a little bit, but we wouldn’t get beyond the 90 days.

Jake Sekelsky: Okay, that’s fair. And then just on Terronera, can you just touch on the labor outlook there as we head towards commissioning later this year?

Dan Dickson: Yeah. I mean, from a labor standpoint, we handle all the mine development internally. So from our mining team, which will transition from development into our operations will be consistent and be fully up on labor from operational readiness standpoint for the plant. We’ve already started that process. We’ve made hires for plant operations and obviously from an indirect standpoint, we’re relatively staffed up there as well. So there shouldn’t be a significant change or a huge hiring process between now and Q4. We have people that we need to add, but we’ve already been working on operational readiness plans, so we can execute well in Q4. Again from a labor cost standpoint, everything we’ve done this year from an operational standpoint was done at 17:1 at Mexico peso to U.S. dollar. When we go into operations for Terronera that would be a similar FX rate that we would use for Bolanitos and Guanacevi 30% of our cost is related to labor and that’s similar for Terronera. Again, when we go back and look at 2022s optimized plan that would have been done at 21:1 ratio. So now that’s at 17:1 ratio. So you’d have higher labor costs from an operational standpoint just because of the FX move. Again, when we go into 2025, we’ll provide that additional detail for the market.

Jake Sekelsky: Got it. Okay. That’s all for me. Thanks again.

Operator: This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Dan Dickson for any closing remarks.

Dan Dickson: Thanks, operator, and thanks to everyone who’s tuned in today for our Q1, 2024 earnings release. Again, I think we’ve done an extremely good job of just executing our plan from an operational standpoint. It’s our job to execute on Terronera this year. We can execute on Terronera over the next two quarters. We should begin to commissioning for Q4 2024 and it will be nice to see that production profile come into the Endeavor production profile for 2025. Thanks everyone and have a good day.

Operator: [Operator Closing Remarks].

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